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¿Question #1165?
onky: Is chaos an illusion and just a complex form of order?
ocdspectrum: By definition, no.
Woelf: Sure, why not
pwilz: You probably think this is so clever.
meshnaster: Probably.
pricero1: No - your room really is messy and I want you to tidy it NOW!
jasta6: Illusion...............................................................................................................................
FabienC: No. Order is a complex form of chaos.
Septic: no
gmonk: Drfhjlishhls
GrimJester: not exactly but sort of, yeah
Jythier: Both!
Azog: It depends. When a form of order reaches a certain degree of complexity, it appears to be chaotic. But sometimes, it's actually order-less.
Randy Cox: Some say so.
vandemonium: It's a noun.
BuddhaPhi: Yep. If you say so, swami.
Pepsi4Me2: Complex order
virre: yes
DHEK: No, it's not. It's chaos.
william_henshaw: With chaos there is no order but there may be a method
.JcK.: Order IS chaos. Asleep.
malloc: the second one
Avron: No
onky: A complex form of order... Wait... This is my question!:P
POvidiusNaso: Probably.
biggdork: no. impossible. not true chaos. although, if you categorize chaos as a form of order, then I suppose it has been ordered and cannot escape.
duchamp: Order is an illusion and just a less complex form of chaos.
Greedo: Yes
JediDragon: Order
XenoMaster: No
puffinge: a simple form of disorder
PsyJam: Aren't those the same answer? Still.. there is never chaos.
scriptorum: I believe patterns are useful because humans are stupid, so what we call order is that of nature we successfully apply patterns to, and chaos is that which we fail to discriminate a pattern of repetition. Given these definitions, chaos is neither an illusion nor "complex order," neither is order less illusional. The universe, in a sense, is a single, non-repeating pattern in and of itself, it is what it is -- making it ordered exactly as it is, as the universe, as it should be, which is both the most complicated thing to be (unless you think there's something bigger than the universe) and the simplest: existence. The universe is order and chaos simultaneously, so your question is moot, merely a sad attempt by human consciousness to map what it observes to within the limited structure of the brain. Thank you, and be sure to pick up the lecture notes on your way out. There will be a quiz on Thursday, and no it's not a pop quiz, how can I give you a pop quiz if you know about it ahead of time, then it's not pop. These run-on sentences were brought to you by the letter Q and the number 3.
Nekura: Everything has order on some level.
Pigtail Power: It's a highly comples form of order.
Deeghter: Chaos is nature! Order is illusion!
LemonyFresh: Sure
Kazin: Actually, control is an illusion. chaos is life.
ZombyDawg: It's a psuedo-scientific attempt to describe the divine algorithms
themightyhump: Anything can be reduced to numbers. However, numbers themselves can be chaotic. So chaos is not illusionary, but a necessary part of our world, but chaos and order stem from the same root.
Archvile: No.
janiera: No
Tushratta: Or perhaps a complex form of disorder.
DarqueKhaos: order is just an illusion, chaos is natural.
Tamsmo: complex form of order
polychemist: it just is
Debate: Yes. Chaos is simply a factor of high-level complexity
CharlieWonka: complex form of order
Bluenose: The most complex form of order is via Funagain, so yes, chaos it is then
skrutsch: ummm...yeah
sourwyrm: illusion
bekudno: Well technically, chaos *is* a complex form of order. No illusion.
arkibet: both.
Lord_Prussian: Ah, interesting. I'll go with both.
rdmasters: Cute. Is A B or not(A). You win an application of the Fallacy Bat.
leece: Yes: It all leads down to the heat death of the universe.
JimPAX: Chaos is the natural state of the universe that it is slowly receding back to. It's called entropy. Look into it.
The Unbeliever: 42
ssmooth: No
erli: Chaos = order to dakarp. You should see his home :-D
Scott Tepper: Does that mean my bedroom might be complexly ordered?
snoozefest: no
batman: no
jimchris: Order is an illusion of chaos.
Windopaene: No it isn't
Nomadik: the latter
ikeafetishist: not really. i'm a mess and it frustrates me to no end.
2amp: chaos is real. order is an illusion & an affront to nature
Wintergoblin: An illusion
nexttothemoon: Yes definitely...there is no chaos, randomness, free will or luck.
djlg: Yes and no.
AlorielLelyn: Or is order only a slightly more organized form of chaos? They say that any form of order, when viewed from a significant distance becomes chaos. Chaos, in turn, becomes order when viewed from a significant distance. For example, the rather chaotic pattern of stars in the sky, when viewed from a great distance, turns into a spiral galaxy. Which in turn, viewed from a greater distance, looks like a clump of galaxies with no particular order. Then viewed from an even greater distance, looks like specific clusters of galaxies with some sense of order.
stephensj23: No.
fellonmyhead: Quite possibly the other way round; I suppose it depends on whether you follow the Einsteinian or the Heisenbergen school of thought.
Flyspeck23: The latter.
tragicpoet: No, chaos is cool and unregulated
wcordewiner: No, order is a special case of chaos
gnomehome: How do you define chaos ?
WasQ: Chaos is a complex form of illusion of order
Belash: illusion
Eric Haas: Say what?
Shakar: It's a complex form of order, that our mind can't grab.
louiseh: No, its chaotic. Not a difficult concept, I would have thought.
Blackwind: no..order is the illusion of chaos.
Zambo: Depends on whose viewpoint you're looking from.
jttm: Both
MisterCranky: Chaos and order are merely synonyms.
skelebone: You got it. Go to the head of the class.
CortexBomb: Ask a chaos theorist, that stuff is beyond me at this point
chaddyboy_2000: I don't think about that kind of stuff.
BobDodgerBlue: Possibly
CDRodeffer: Yes and no.
ValJor: No, chaos is chaos.