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¿Question #1773?
puffinge: Why do so many people hate the memory aspect of games when it's really just another skill like deduction and negotiation?
TheGrimReeple: Some people don't enjoy exercising some skills. Deception is a skill, and an important one in many games (Diplomacy springs to mind). But I am almost obsessively honest, so it's not a skill I enjoy exercising, and they aren't games I enjoy playing.
DuelistofAges: That is actually an interesting query... I don't know people that I know who are good at memory don't seem to mind it, I think people like to complain when they lose at something.
Narlgoth: Usually because they have poor memories.
Hector Vortac: Word
Wind Lane: Because they think anything they could understand and apply as a child is therefore juvenile and beneath them. Instead - they need to recognize that speech and walking are things learned in those same formative years and still have massive use IF THEY ARE BUILT UPON. For example, learn larger words and more complex sentences - learning to run and jump - memorizing more complex patterns and larger sets.
Infomanohio: A lot of people have no faith in their memory. I do, on the other hand.
Connal: I forgot what I was going to say.
Der Ubermolch: Memory deteriorates with age. It's a skill one gets progressively worse at, no matter how hard you work. That said, I don't mind memory games.
vandemonium: I can't recall.
koiyu: Because people with a good memory are scary.
quatsch: They're Losers
shteev: Because many people find it difficult to both remember things AND be socially active within the gaming group, whereas there isn't such a conflict between sociability and those other skills.
xofour: because most people have to get their wives drunk in order to play...games...and then they....umm never mind, sorry to bother you.
Mike McCall: Why should we have to memorize things in a fun game? I do enough of that in other places.
DHEK: Because memorizing things is NOT fun. It's tedious and boring.
aleo09: i forget
vampywife: Not all people are good with memory, so those people would naturally dislike that aspect of the game.
eddyspaghetti: We hate perceived weakness.
POvidiusNaso: Because memory is becoming harder and harder to use. The ancients used to memorize entire speeches (I believe - there's some discussion here). Nowadays, we have constant reminders of everything. PDAs, Outlook, online TV Guides...hell in a handbasket, I tells ya...
MightyMike: Because it takes an investment of effort without guarantee of future usefulness. Whereas deduction and negotiation lead to reward in a much directer way. In other words, people are lazy.
_Kael_: Is it?
Leo-T: because people, in general, are too mentally lazy these days.
Embark: I forget
GVogel: Well see, it's like this... great - I forgot my answer...
mcross: Not all skills are created equal (or equally fun)
Cut & Space: cause they have bad memory
prolifekilledmywife: Memory's a pretty delicate "skill", I suppose.
bigbadsteve: they forgot to take their ginko
Chris Page: Because you have to think.
XanderF: Because so many people have poor memory?
SybotCB: I don't hate it, but I think probably because they think it isn't truly strategy and just a test of memory. Deduction and negotiation require other skills.
BLSchoose: what was the question again?
jasta6: I use to know this answer, hang on, I
chockle: They don't care to use or enhance that skill, just as some don't care for flicking games, for example.
Nekura: Because they can't remember jack
brainrob: Because, unlike broader tactical or strategic thinking, memory work is tedious.
Helenoftroy: because they haven't played Busem Memo
ZombyDawg: I forget.
hacksword: It's because they are stupid. That is the only reason anybody does anything.
Karlsen: Probably because they are not good at them and some may argue it is a bit more an ability than a skill
Favre4MVP: I don't remember.
SenorOcho: Memory is not really a skill.
confuse_a_cat: I don't think it is necessarily because they have bad memories. I for one am pretty good at simple memory games, and I dislike playing them. I think it is because I think of remembering as a task. I mean, I COULD make a game out of moving a pile of rocks from one place to another and back, but I don't think it would win the Spiel des Jahres.
scubadawg1: I prefer the mammory aspect of memory games.... ;)
tipigi: different people like different things...
DeSangre: Because they're bad at it.
skudfisher: Because most people have crap memories and feels it's too much like work.
darthcliff: If we were that good at imagination and visualization, would we need boards?
Magnus the Blue: I forget...
dakarp: I hate it because, unlike deduction and negotiation, I do not find it to be very fun to use my memory like that.
Dr. No: as you grow older, your short time memory declines (fact)
javelin98: It's not as dynamic
Codexier: I don't remember why...
ssmooth: That's like asking why do so many people hate laying asphalt when it's really just another skill like swimming or juggling.
xlorp: Because it's the least improvable social skill.
Regault: Because memory requires constant attention to the game rather than temporary intense concentration on the game.
Null Signature: because there is no creativity to the memory aspect
Culvan: Because if you have problems with memory, you feel helpless. Negotiation is a very interpersonal skill that can fall anywhere within a broad spectrum, and even if you're bad at negotiation you might think you're good. Skill in deduction equates primarily to speed - people poor in deduction might still figure it out if they think harder or longer, and it's a skill that clearly improves with practise (especially in the context of any particular game, where you can start to learn patterns and rules). Memory is very boolean - you either remember, or you don't, and if you don't remember it doesn't seem like you can do anything about it. Even memory improvement systems rely on associations and mnemonics, and feel like a crutch for an inherently poor memory that can't be overcome. Being bad at memory games feels very final and crippling.
meshuggener: Hmm, maybe because their brains are dying.
bobby_5150: Some people just want to be distracted for awhile and not have to think. Pity.
Ludocrazy: Probably because it's something they are either nto good at or because it seems like work, and they're gaming to relax.
Dementomstie: Deduction you usually get a way to keep track of your information(the suspect list in Clue for example) and negotiation is something you can learn to do fairly easily while memory is something that is difficult to improve and which can be easily changed by distraction or too much information(such as interuptions causing you to forget where what pieces are in a given game)
Great Dane: Because that is their least favorite skill
AdamT: Well as we get older our memory gets....what was I saying?
leece: Damn. Can't remember what I was going to answer.
Ardos: I'm guessing that those people are not memory smart and hate to lose on account of forgetfulness
kimapesan: People always complain about games that play to their weaknesses.
Skipthis86: what's the question?
arkibet: Senior moments.
Randy Cox: Those kind of people are like game reviewers, they think it's important to find something bad to say about every game.
dietevil: dunno, it doesn't bother me at all
ThatFalafelGirl: i like the memory aspect. i hate deduction :P
Belash: What was the question?
Lord_Prussian: What was the question again?
scriptorum: I forget.
Kubilai: Maybe it's because memorizing does not enhance understanding, deduction and negotiation do.
skrutsch: I disagree with your premise.
snoozefest: 'cause they don't have that skill
nexttothemoon: Memory actually seems to decline with age so I don't think we don't like game mechanisms we are getting poorer at every time we play :)
Nomadik: I have no idea.
squonk: Because it's a skill we're not good at.
kennyb: it hurts too much
tragicpoet: Because they, like me, probably have sucky memory
heli: memories were burned out by undergraduate work
2amp: lazy
ValJor: I don't know, I don't have a problem with it
MisterCranky: Because so many of us have extra wide axon hillocks, and the neurotransmitters we produce just can't make the grade.
puffinge: They prefer the skills they are good at.
djlg: Because they can't be bothered using that part of thier brain during a social gaming session.
Dave: Dunno. I've often wondered the same...
PopeBrain: because their memory sucks
AlorielLelyn: Because memory is what school uses to teach us... and we're all tired of exercising that part of our brain.
DenverWolf: Because some of us are SO bad at it.
shippert: Because memorizing things isn't fun, while deducing and negotiating is.
hibikir: Because you can still socialize while you are deducing or negotiating. It's pretty hard to be competitive and social when you are counting scores in 4 categories for all other 3 players.
Thornn: It's much harder (or, if it isn't, it seems so) to improve than those other skills.
Salt-Man Z: Because they have crappy memories, of course.
gnomehome: Is memory a skill or a natural aptitude ?
sumo: Well if it is a skill you don't have, or aren't willing to work at, then it is easy to gripe.
Fawkes: I can't remember. Ask me the open variant.
jttm: It requires long term concentration.
CortexBomb: I don't know, because people arbitrarily dislike it?
louiseh: Because it is usually very obvious who is going to win.
chaddyboy_2000: I hate the memory aspect because I have a poor memory.
Blackwind: dunn
CDRodeffer: I don't know. I don't hate it.
Spielfreak: I used to know...
skelebone: Dunno, maybe they don't have a good memory?